Ep. 43 HEMAJKAM - Learning From The Community

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For full disclosure. The information discussed
in this podcast is based on the views

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and experiences of the guests and the
hosts. The content here is for general

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educational purposes only. This is Tina
here with you on Autum Young Voices podcast

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and we are so excited to be
back because we have so much to share

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with you all. And shout out
to ah you listeners, whether you're a

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first time listener or you've been listening
to the podcast for years, thank you

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so much for being a loyal listener
and just supporting the work that we're doing

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and the stories that we're telling.
It's just an honor to do this work

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for you as the community member,
and of course sharing your stories and other

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Autum stories and then just stories that
relate to all Native Indigenous community. So

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we're happy to do the work.
We enjoy it, we love it.

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We get to meet so many different
people. But we wanted to come together

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and wrap up this eight season.
This is going to be our final episode

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for season eight and then later on
in the interview, we're going to talk

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about what season nine is going to
be about what we're going to be focusing

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on in season nine. But yes, we wanted to wrap up season eight

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with an update about all the things
that we've been doing. And if you've

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been following us on our social media, then you've definitely got to see little

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snippets of where we're at, the
people that we're meeting, and how we've

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been involved in the community, both
on and off the microphone. I'm gonna

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give a little update of myself,
share a little bit of myself, my

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little bit of my personal life,
I guess. So you know, for

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me, I live here in Tucson, but of course I live on the

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nation as well. Family out there
grew up out their truth on Autumn through

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and through. But I live here
in Tucson now because I work here in

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Tucson and I work at the local
community radio station. I actually used to

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work for the thorn Out, the
Nation's tribal radio. I worked at Kohen.

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If you're a listener, Lady T. I still go by Lady T

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when I'm on air here. But
I do do a lot of like behind

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the scenes production work. I am
the production coordinator, so I produced mini

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programs and shows, but I also
work with their automation system in radio broadcasting.

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And then of course, you know, if I'm just hanging out.

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I like to just be at home, chill, relax, play video games.

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I love playing Fortnite. Yeah,
so if you're on Fortnite, drop

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your your name. Maybe we could
be friends. We can emo together.

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So but yeah, and I love
my cat. To have two cats,

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Thundercat and Callie, both named after
some pretty popular music artists. And then

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of course just hang out, go
out with friends. We have some good

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food, a good meal which we'll
talk about, a delicious meal that we

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actually all three of us had when
we were at a recent conference. But

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I'm gonna have the mic over to
Napoleon and you know, give an update

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on what he's been up to.
Yeah, hello listeners. Yeah, so

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just a brief update, kind of
just taking it easy. I'm staying with

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my mom and step dead for a
bit, kind of catching up with them.

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Also taking care of some of the
houses, working things, and their

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dogs. So if you hear barking
in the back, that's all the dogs

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which she has. Also playing video
games usually just like the Dark Soul series,

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Elder Ring, a lot of those
open world things. I haven't really

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been playing video games for a while, just because of the changing of the

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landscape of video games. Nowadays.
So, but back in the day,

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it used to be a hunter in
a call of duty. So but since

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that's changed, I kind of retired. Yeah, and then I know,

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there's an amazing amount of things that
are been happening for the podcast members.

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So one thing that is that has
happened to me is that I've been able

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to obtain a position this coming fall
semester. The next semester at San Carlos

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Apache College, I'm going to be
teaching online class in philosophy one O one.

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So it's a class that you have
to take. So if you all

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are interested in any listeners wanting to
start their education, you can actually enroll

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for free at on An autom Community
College and then they'll be able to give

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you access to all the classes and
then I'm sure that we can see my

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classes there, or you can roll
at sun Cross and Practic College. So

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really looking forward to that. It'll
be me and another colleague that'll be taking

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on that role. So I'm just
excited to get my feet wet looking to

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talk about more indigenous philosophy out there. So really excited about that, and

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I'm excited that what the success of
everybody else has been doing rather than just

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taking care of my kid, you
know, seeing my son and watching them

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grow. And then started my own
podcast too, and so yeah, that's

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pretty much it. I'll hand it
over to Breathe. Yeah. I also

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have a part time job. So
aside from that, I have been enjoying

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my last free summer because I just
got into the law school here at the

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University of Arizona, as well as
the master's public health program, so I'm

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going to pursue dual degree, which
is a little scary but very exciting,

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and everyone just has been so supportive, not only like you know, the

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people around me, people at the
schools as well, so it's really exciting.

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But besides from that, I've just
been playing my cello. I was

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saying that I have a little recital
next month, so that's fun. And

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then I also played Fortnite from time
to time. Me and Tin are gonna

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play suits together, crazy, we
have to play. I'm telling you,

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Napoleon. When we were waiting for
you earlier, I was telling him.

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I was all like, were is
she breezy? And I was like,

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we should start calling her breezy.
That's so funny because when I was younger,

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that's what one of my soccer coaches
used to call me it, but

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like ever since I ever sat,
like since I stopped playing with that team,

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like no one's ever me. You
can bring it back just for you

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guys. That's gonna that's happening now, darting right now, crazy, but

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it'll be my my DJ name.
There you go. But yeah, aside

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from not I also have some some
kitty cats and a bugs home. My

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children keep me busy and then just
hanging out with my roommam, best friend

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and my little sister. She teats
me on to skateboard, so that's fun.

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Also another scary thing, I don't
know. Lots of fun things happening.

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Cool, that's awesome. Yeah,
so Breezy plays the cello. She's

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been playing for a while. I
haven't seen her so I haven't seen it

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in full action. I'd like to, but I don't know how. But

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yeah, it's pretty cool that she
can. I've been waiting for me and

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Tina to do a collab actually accordion. Yeah, so for those who don't

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know, I actually play the accordion. I play a GCF accordion, a

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soul accordion in which I was actually
just playing for Napoleon. I was giving

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Napoleon a little concert earlier when we
were waiting for me to jump on,

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so crazy missed out. It's not
like a sound by of people going boom

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okay, So what are we going
to talk about first? So what do

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we got? The Mexican American Heritage
Center and Museum here in Tucson. It's

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actually located right next to the Tucson
Music Hall, which is now called the

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Linda Ronstan Music Hall. If you're
familiar with Tucson and you know where the

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TCC is Tucson Convention Center, it's
actually between the Linda Ronstant Music Hall and

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the TCC, and it is the
Sosa Carrio House. Yes, you're right.

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But they reached out to us and
they had funding to put together a

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permanent exhibit specifically focusing on Native autumn
Native indigenous history here in Tucson, and

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they asked if we could be a
part of that project. And of course

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that doesn't mean that we're gonna be
the only ones working on it. It

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means that we get to partner with
other local people here in Tucson who are

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working in museums, who have familiar
archival and exhibit work as well, and

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of course relying on the community who
is willing to share their stories. Maybe

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they have family stories or family history
that goes way back any walk community members.

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We're definitely hoping that we can find
somebody or other autom who can help

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us to create this permanent exhibit.
So we may be reaching out to local

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autumn in the future or this year. So we're excited about that project that

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we have. And I always say
this, we're more than a podcast.

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We have a lot of things both
on and off the microphone. So yeah,

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so we have that. I don't
know, Bri or Nopolan, do

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you want to share with what else
do we have going on? Yeah?

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We also uh are partnering for then
eh Grant and I thought that maybe the

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point could share a little bit more
about that because you do know more about

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that and what that entails. Is
that the one of Doctor Burner Actually,

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yeah, that was the one.
No, this any age ground. This

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one is with SFA Southeast Folk for
the alliance. Yeah, let's explain a

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little bit more in that. Yeah, so we haven't fully started anything yet,

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but I am really excited because it's
surrounding climate change and how it's affected

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the land here and we're going to
be interviewing a lot of Indigenous people and

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community members about how it's affected them. They're traditional ways of life. But

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yeah, really exciting because you know, I did join this podcast to learn

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more about the communities here and the
issues that affect them. So hopefully I

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will meet even more amazing community members
that I've already met so far through this

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and yeah, I'm really excited to
share their stories. Yeah, So that

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one kicks off this year as well, and Brie is coming on this project

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as a program coordinator for this project, and any H is for the National

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Endowment for Humanities. And we're partnered
with the Southwest Folk Life Alliance and Border

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Lower with Kimmy Izel, and they
also have another partnership in Texas from Texas,

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they are called Las si Mia and
we're all kind of these three entities

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coming together to work together on these
different storytelling projects that we have. So

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we have that to keep as busy
outside of just making episodes for the podcast.

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And another thing we've been doing recently, I collaborated with the sanate Alati

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Association. They have a youth group
and they brought me in as a consultant

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to help them create a podcast,
and theirs is mainly going to be focusing

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on autumn, land and water rights
topics and of the ALTI Association to share

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information about all the things that are
involved with being in a LATTI what does

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that mean. And then of course
whatever the youth are interested in talking about,

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whether it's movies, music, whatever
that is for them. But it

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was really cool that I got to
come in and kind of help consult and

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guide them and train them on how
to set up microphones, what are all

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the gear and equipment that they need, what types of microphones are the best,

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which I recommended this type of microphone, the road microphone, and they

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were able to get a couple of
them, and what software to use,

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so they're also you're going to be
using spreaker as a host website as well

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as editing software, so all the
things with all the tools that you need

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to produce a good podcast and produce
it enough to where it can you know,

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then live online and then be you
know, put out there for the

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world to hear or locally whatever that
is. But it was really cool that

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they caught on really fast, These
youth, they caught on really fast,

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and it was really cool to see
them kind of do it on their own

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after that, and I would just
kind of sit back and kind of watch

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and also listen when they recorded their
first episode, and then we would pause

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and I would recommend, oh,
maybe you should say like this, or

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maybe you should share or expand a
little more on that detail or on this

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story, and explaining to them,
like you want to give the listeners as

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much content as possible and be descriptive
with your stories. Tell things descriptively so

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that they can have a visual in
their mind. So also again how to

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be a good storyteller. So all
these little tips and tricks that I've picked

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up throughout my career, I guess
as a podcaster and as a radio producer

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announcer. It was fun. It
was a fun little project, and I

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believe I'm still going to be working
with them a little bit here and there.

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But that's an update on that recent
project that I was working on just

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in this past month. Let's see
what's next. I know we have a

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list. I can't see that list
right now. Yeah. We've also been

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doing a little bit of community events
and attending community events as well. The

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first one was World Water Day and
that was in partnership with Alianza Indigenous in

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front Atas and that whole event was
coordinated to help the community learn here from

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water advocates and just to learn about
the importance of waterco Cervasan reclamation water rides

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and we had a lot of fun
there. I went with Tina, we

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got to meet One of the things
I love about these about these community events

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is just talking to people. Honestly, Like, I learned so much just

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from meeting different people that I didn't
even know were in Tucson or listeners in

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tu Soon, which is also really
exciting. And then even people want to

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start their own podcasts, and it's
so heartwarming to hear when they come up

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and they're like, oh, I
was inspired and I really want to start

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my own podcast, and how should
I go about that? And then Tina

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can't give them the whole rundown about
that, and it's just really nice.

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It's really cool that we're able to, you know, spark that kind of

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inspiration in people. Yeah, that
was really cool, especially when they come

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out and they say I listened to
this episode or that they've been listening for

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a long time and they really like
the topics that we put out in the

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stories that we share. And then
aside from that, we did go to

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GABRIELLEA. Kelly's meet and greet fundraising
events as she is running for re election

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her Prima County Recorder And if you
don't know her, she was the first

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Native American woman to be elected Native
American for that matter, to be elected

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for that position. And I know
Tina knows a lot more about her,

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but just from an outside perspective,
I've never met her before before this event.

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I just followed her through social media
and just the things that she's been

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she's been doing, And before I
even met her, I knew she was

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such an amazing person and such a
light to the community. But in person,

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she's just so warm and kindie.
You can just like feel her passion

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to want to help the community and
just bring justice to issues that impact them

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and so really really inspirational. And
I can't wait to continue to work with

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her hopefully and just to continue learning
from her as well. You know,

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we have definitely made it a priority. You know, we didn't ask to

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come to the event at all,
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like I said as Kelly, she
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thorn Them Community College. So I've
known her for many years and she supported

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my work and I've always supported her
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of course I'm going to continue to
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it's absolutely important for all Native Indigenous
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position as the Pima County Recorder.
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just to support her, you know, share her message whatever she wanted to

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share with the community. And of
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toward getting re elected, and I
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they did it the first time and
that they'll do it again. They'll re

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elect her again so that she can
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But yes, also shout out to
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for uh what is it? The
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is that position, Like what does
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has a lot to do with like
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that seat or District three, which
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most of the th Autumn nation on
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because we've seen it as a benefit
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seat and position within Pima County.
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so we know it's it's possible,
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the true changes and how beneficial it
could be for us Autumn. So hopefully

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we can do that for April as
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know, got her campaign going on
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to talk to her and bring her
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that brings us to the two little
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one being the US Indigenous Data Sovereignty
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we also just came back from the
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us got to go, so that
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you want to kind of explain you
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Data Sovereignty and this is like a
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back and it was it was a
first of its kind. They've never done

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anything like this. So for us
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pass, to have access to get
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just be a part of this conference
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think about how Native Indigenous communities are
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to do best data practices in protecting
what that looks like in different ways that

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the communities are using their own data
in a beneficial way. So there's so

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many different ways that so many different
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the world are working on, whether
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medicine, health on a community based
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even with the with the boarding school
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ways and topics. So I really
it was an eye opener for me and

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it helped me to read about you
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what we're doing we're collecting stories.
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too deep into detail when it comes
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like we've been very good about that
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comes to the cultural stuff, it's
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the Internet that other autumn have put
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song, a story, a YouTube
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a little you know, putting our
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stories as well. But yeah,
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from that summit was just the importance
of data and learning what exactly is indigenous

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data sovereignty. Yeah. I also
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this past summer, I actually was
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Stephanie Carroll, who is such a
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a big name in indigenous data sovereignty
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of different principles surrounding indigenous data sovereignty
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data. I think one of the
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really makes me, has made me
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is explaining that we as Indigenous people
have been creating data since time memorial,

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and that's through our language, our
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the land, and just us as
a people, we have been data stewards.

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way, because I honestly didn't even
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I even started that internship. So
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and then seeing how many different people
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sovereignty, it was really cool to
see and really exciting just to see what

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we do in this field as it
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had a lot of fun. Yeah. So one thing that we had a

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chance to meet one of the keynote
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Kowai. She is from New Zealand, and she talked about her tribal community

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there, the work that she's done
on the Maudi Maudi data. But one

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thing she said while we were talking
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that we are moving away from being
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that just was like wow, yes, yes, no more providing data for

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other people. We need to be
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and protecting our own data. So
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for me as well. But yeah, that was it right there, And

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of course on our social media you
can check it out. I don't know

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if we posted anything from that on
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we didn't, unfortunately, but you
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the experience was for us. But
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move into talking about Actually, yeah, we can move into the recent conference

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that we were at, the Tribal
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Horse Pass Casino and Resort. They
reached out to us via our website and

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they asked if we wanted to be
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having their first ever digital storytelling room, and because of course that's what we

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do, they asked if we could
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story as far as like being a
part of a panel as well as having

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a table there where we can promote
our the podcast there of course, and

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then just meet a lot of different
people. They got us rooms to stay

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a few nights, and that was
pretty cool and pretty nice of them.

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But for me attending that was really
awesome because what it was was, you

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know, this is different tribal communities, tribal leaders from all over the States

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nationwide coming together to learn about how
are you governing in a more sovereign way

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for your community? And one cool
thing is like they had this thing called

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for the People, So every now
and then throughout the conference, they would

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show like short documentaries on different tribal
communities, so they were highlighting how those

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communities are continueing to be sovereign in
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giving really good examples of the work
that they're doing in their communities in a

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more sovereign way. So I thought
that was pretty cool. Napoleon, do

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you want to talk more about what
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you thought about the panel and then
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see that there's these documentaries and content that

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is being created by indigenous people.
So it was really cool to just how

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as content creators and as people who
document these stories to kind of connect in

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a way that makes us feel very
wholesome. And I think that was really

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to me, It was a really
impactful thing because we all had our own

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stories and intertwined, intertwined our content
together and how we can continue to tell

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our stories in any way that we
can, whether that's from broadcasting or podcasting,

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documentary series, in whichever way that
we can document it. So I

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think all in all really brought us
all together to feel safe and and in

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a way that we can feel comfortable
for a moment to watch these trailers or

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share what our methods is like of
storytelling. So it was really it was

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really eye opening and good good to
hear from others who are doing work across

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the country. So and we also
got to, you know, we got

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to shout out for the work that
we're doing because a lot of these projects

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at the time started from podcasters.
A lot of big product projects like documentary

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films people get involved with the communities
have started from podcasting, and so it

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was really cool to just kind of
get that recognition that we're we're not something

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where we're not something of a minority
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that were sort of in the forefront
as it should be. I mean,

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like mentioned before, as far as
data, we should be the ones documenting

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and telling our stories. So we
just have a different way of a passion

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just like everybody else, and they
all intertwine. So it was really cool

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to hear that and talk to talk
to other folks doing that. As far

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as the panel goes, I think
there's really good questions. I really enjoyed

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the company that we that we were
able to sit with and talk with and

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yeah, I mean people were just
from the community that I know and others

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made some new friends and hopefully that
will allow us to grow and continue our

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work. And so a really uplifting
way of what we what others might not

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know, what is digital storytelling or
what is that? I think another thing

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of the conference was like, can
you tell us a little bit about what

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a pot cast is or how do
you frame the story? How do you

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do who do you interview, how
do you fois content? What do you

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do you know? So I think
that was really informational for a lot of

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our guests that were there, people
that really wanted to engage with us.

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So I appreciate the last few days
with them, and then I stayed to

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the last day and pretty much that
that Pantel was talking about the future and

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to me, I sort of kind
of look back on the stuff that I

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that I enjoy watching on my leisure
and I think I mentioned in the beginning,

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you know, like a lot of
youth are with the rising of different

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platforms YouTube, TikTok, Instagram.
You know, before there was a lot

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of creative ways to get content out, and I think now that we're seeing

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people who are creating their own content
and being more community based as far as

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diging as people around the issues that
are going on. I think we're going

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to start seeing a uprising of indigenous
content creators in these bigger spaces like YouTube,

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Twitch, streaming services like we've already
seen in documentaries and TV shows.

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we get to have a whole network of

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shows and documentaries and our own streaming
service that has indigenized that we can go

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and look for these things and not
have to dig through algorithms. We don't

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have to dig through things that are
most popular that are harmful to Native people.

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And that goes all back to data
and all that stuff. But I

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envision that way we'll get that we
take service, We have services that will

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contribute to our communities, that will
show us what these stories are like from

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wherever we come from. I think
that was a major point that I wanted

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to point out from the last day, was about the future or of digital

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storytelling and what it means. So
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So I asked both of you because
I know both of you weren't able

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to stay is sort of that the
same thing, like where do you see

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the future of digital storytelling? You
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So yeah, I'll just go ahead
and relay that question back to both

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of you because I know there's some
really good questions and I was like,

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dang, this would be a good
one for bre but yeah, I just

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wanted to share share it ad as
well. Yeah I could answer real click.

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I think at least I feel like
I have a different little bit of

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a different view about it because then
I kind of talked about that question before

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we went to the conference and then
after especially seeing what the different media companies

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are doing and also Faith Phillips as
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you know, obviously there's gonna be
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and that's just going to bring,
you know, uplift our communities and our

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voices. And I do think it's
still going to also think that in uplifting,

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uplifting our stories and our voices,
we are going to bring even more

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justice to our communities and the issues
that we're facing, because, at least

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concerning faithbooks, a lot of her
work concerns missing and murdered Indigenous women and

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people. Uh And even in just
with the start of that, so many

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stories have been brought to light and
to different communities that otherwise would not have

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looked into these stories or probably would
even cared to watch stories like this about

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our people. And I think that's
really important in creating the change and creating

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the want and people outside of Indigenous
communities to also want that change. So

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yeah, I think that's really important
for us as a people, and I'm

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really excited to see how that continues
to transform and to help us grow and

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heal our communities as well. Yeah, I think for me, when it

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comes through the feature sure of podcasting, I think it's just you know,

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with all these different ways that podcasts
are being produced and again it's like you

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know, some podcasts, and what
I learned at the conference was that some

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podcasts have you know, covered different
topics and the topics that are so interesting

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So that was very very interesting,
and I feel like the future of podcasting

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is just starting. It really is
just starting. So like you know,

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we've been around on Autumn started in
twenty sixteen when nobody knew what a podcast

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was. But to see where it's
at today and see how many other Native

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Indigenous podcasters there are was pretty awesome. I mean, there are barely a

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handful of Autumn podcasters, but I
feel like it's growing. It's gonna start

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growing where we can all just talk
about different topics, whether it's serious or

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just very conversational, funny, humorous, whatever that looks like for you and

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00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.400
your podcast idea, because I'm sure
there's someone out there who's been thinking about

409
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:22.320
it. Now is definitely the time
to get your podcast out there. Just

410
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:28.039
like Napoleon said, he's got his
five hundred Years podcast that he's going to

411
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:32.559
be working on pretty soon, and
I'm looking forward to that. I don't

412
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.719
know if you remember, for those
who've been following us for a while,

413
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:42.280
we had a staff a team member, Hennessy's. Hennessy's she was a big

414
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.039
part of also the team and the
beginning. She's also reached out to me

415
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:52.800
recently because she is also starting her
own podcast, So that was just really

416
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.559
cool and it makes me excited because
it's like cool, more often podcasters,

417
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:04.079
more local indigenous castors in this southern
Arizona region. It's exciting. It's an

418
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:09.000
exciting time. So I just look
forward to seeing how many other folks are

419
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:15.239
going to be coming out to create
and develop whatever content that looks like that's

420
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.239
important to them to share, and
of course being able to share this platform

421
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.800
with them is amazing and I'm excited
for that. Yeah. Another thing that

422
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:31.840
was kind of discussed is like a
digestible content and what that does that look

423
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:37.320
like as we're telling our stories from
our community, And for me, it's

424
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.679
like, look, it's pretty much
is that it's like your digestive system.

425
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.880
You're not gonna like something you're gonna
or at least you're trying it right,

426
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.079
and if it's not for you,
then it's not for you. I think

427
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:53.800
people have abused that. I think
it's kind of enforced as narratives. We've

428
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:59.079
been forced for a long time to
accept a lot of the narratives that go

429
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.239
against earls storytelling. And I think, Tina, you when you started this

430
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.239
podcast, you know, a lot
of the content news was forced on your

431
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:14.079
throat about you know, aut them
on the Southern Border, and it's just

432
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.400
sort of like, well, it's
about sort of healing those that stuff that's

433
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.440
been kind of forced down your throat, you know, and being able to

434
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:27.559
digest something that is relatable and and
and can and can make you hold again.

435
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.079
I think, what what that?
What? What's your name? Faith?

436
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.599
Was her name? Faith? It
was faith. Huh. So what

437
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.320
faith does is that is making that
content to help others feel whole again,

438
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:45.320
to tell those stories, to enrich
their spirits and to give hope or bring

439
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.440
justice in that way that is,
others can heal from that. And I

440
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.480
think that when you're someone who relates
to that, it's a lot easier to

441
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:59.360
get through it. I think that
just builds a whole nother lot of content

442
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.159
creation, because if it's not the
story you expect, or if it's not

443
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.679
the narrative that you expected. I
think that there's just always a part that

444
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.280
it's not even willing to give it
a try. And I think that what's

445
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.280
been harmful is that sort of forced
narrative of things and we don't agree with

446
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:22.840
and I think we're taking back sort
of the narrative. Taking back the narrative

447
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.760
is differently a part. That was
another question that we were getting asked because

448
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.840
a lot of the stuff we were
sharing, it's like, well, how

449
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:36.119
do you know definitely that you're the
content that it's being shown, whether that's

450
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:40.800
document is about in my w or
palst on all these other things like that

451
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.800
is for everybody, just like it's
not going to be for everybody. You

452
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.920
know, we have things and we
don't like it. We have to see

453
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.440
things, and so I think that
was a really good way of addressing the

454
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.480
the ways for us. It's just
like, you know, we start out

455
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.880
brainstorming and things and we see that's
we see how the reactions. We kind

456
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.280
of just do it. So that
was a that was a good one that

457
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.599
kind of to my mind, when
Brews and the shut out to those that

458
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.800
were there that we got to meet, if you were there, I know

459
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.719
there was a there was a small
time. I got the chance to talk

460
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.639
to a small time. They're a
radio station, but I think they're out

461
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:30.000
in Nebraska and they cover uh some
some topical news, they cover basketball games.

462
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:35.440
They're involved in the community in that
way, and they wanted to reach

463
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.840
out to us about the content and
what we cover. So I have a

464
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.039
lot of similarity. So shout out
to that. I can't remember the name.

465
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.440
I think they're spending in the chat, but out out there and there

466
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:52.360
in a remote area that is heeverly
involved with radio and getting their youth involved

467
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.280
with sports. So shout out to
them and g R B C. Healer

468
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.320
Broadcasting Company, all the folks on
there, and then for the people folks

469
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.960
that put on the documentary coming from
Oklahoma. And yeah, so it was

470
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.440
really cool. But yeah, I
thought i'd share that a little bit too

471
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.159
awesome. Thanks Napoleon for being there, for holding down the fort for us

472
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:19.719
and being there all four days and
getting to chill kickback by the pool.

473
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.800
No, I'm just kidding Uncle outfit
on. But yeah, it was a

474
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.719
good time. Not only that,
but we actually made time to you know,

475
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:37.239
leave the conference for meet up for
dinner at this really fancy Prime Cuts

476
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:44.199
place. And we just had a
feast and me and Napoleon shared this huge

477
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:51.800
tomahawk steak and we're joking about that
big bone part, and just had so

478
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.239
many different types of desserts, had
a little like one. I had one

479
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.519
glass of well me and Brie had
one glass of wine. Pretty fancy.

480
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.920
Yeah, it was a good time. We had a lot of fun that

481
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.639
night, just going out to get
together as a team. And I think

482
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.880
that, of course, that's important
for any team. We try to with

483
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.960
all the work that we do,
we try to do something for ourselves,

484
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:22.000
treat ourselves, come together, have
a little fun together as well, get

485
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.639
to know each other a little more, because more we don't always get to

486
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.760
be together in person, but when
we are, it's an opportunity for us

487
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:35.320
to really learn about each other and
develop a friendship as well with this team,

488
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.159
and it's just been it's been fun
the other times that we've been able

489
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.400
to do that, But yeah,
that's what we've been up to. We

490
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:47.119
actually do have content on that conference
on our social media. Whether you follow

491
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.440
us on TikTok, on Instagram or
on Facebook, you've definitely we'll be able

492
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:58.360
to see a little bit of our
involvement there, So it was a really

493
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:02.199
cool opportunity and I'm thinking full and
grateful to Ricky who reached out to us

494
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.000
and asked us to be a part
of the digital storytelling you and we absolutely

495
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.599
appreciate you, Ricky, if you're
listening in, and yeah, it was

496
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.239
a good time, and shout out, yeah, shout out to Hiller River

497
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:22.039
Broadcasting staff that were there in the
same room, holding up the same space

498
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.000
as us, And it was just
really cool to meet them and to learn

499
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:30.079
about the work that they're doing.
And just like how they're a separate entity

500
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.880
from the Hiller River They're not funded
by the Hilly River Indian community. They're

501
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.159
their own entity, so that gives
them a little bit more freedom to cover

502
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:45.960
different topics in different ways. And
they have their own TV channel as well

503
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.519
local TV channel. So yeah,
it was just really cool to meet their

504
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.519
staff and get to know about the
work that they do. I think another

505
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:01.440
thing we wanted to talk about was
Sees eight. So we're this episode is

506
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.159
the final episode of season eight,
and what do we have coming up for

507
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:10.760
season nine? So we just put
out an episode, episode forty two featuring

508
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:16.239
Keana Pete and I'll let Brie and
Napoleon kind of talk about that how that

509
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:21.519
idea came to be as far as
a guest, And this is just a

510
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:27.000
kind of showcase to you listeners and
whoever's watching, to showcase how we come

511
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.079
up with these ideas when it comes
to having guests on our show, and

512
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:35.039
what that process looks like, or
what are the steps that we take when

513
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.480
it comes to creating. And maybe
sometimes it doesn't always work out and somebody

514
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:43.280
else has to jump in and help
co host the interviews, but I love

515
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:49.440
retalk about more about it now.
So as a content creator and just a

516
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.880
young person, I guess you could
say I'm just heavily on social media,

517
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.840
and a big part of that is
I do follow a lot of people who

518
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:06.440
are spreading vucation or awareness on issues
surrounding you know, minorities, Indigenous people

519
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.719
mostly. And I actually went to
middle school with Keana. That's where I

520
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.960
met her, and I just knew
from a young age just like this girl

521
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.719
she's gonna do She's gonna do some
great things, and so I kept in

522
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.480
touch with it a little bit over
social media since then, and since then,

523
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:30.000
I've just seen her into such an
amazing and inspiring and impactful person just

524
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.639
for our community, for the communities
that she's been a part of now that

525
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.880
she's going to school at the University
of Columbia, and I just because I

526
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.639
know she has her regular Instagram and
she knows she has a separate Instagram where

527
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:49.679
she posts specifically educational content. It's
called Indigenous Underscore Pevie, I think you

528
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:54.239
would like to follow that. And
she actually interviewed me recently for her thesis

529
00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:00.480
about Border Towns and how that's affected
us as we used to live in the

530
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.920
Four Corners area. So she talks
a lot about that in the episode,

531
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.079
which you guy should watch because it's
really interesting, especially if you don't know

532
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:13.119
a lot about Border Towns or the
Four Corners area. But yeah, no,

533
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.719
she's just really cool person and I
knew she would have so much information

534
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.280
to share. And unfortunately, I
did have work that morning, so I

535
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.000
could not be a part of the
interview. But I reception from the plane,

536
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.239
and you know, as a good
team member, he was willing to

537
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.920
help me out and kind of set
up that interview and also speak with her.

538
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.960
So yeah, I was not able
to be there, unfortunately, but

539
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.559
I do want to hear how that
went and what you guys thought of her.

540
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:44.519
Yeah, yeah, the start,
So I guess to start with the

541
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:50.519
episode. Usually when we talk about
brainstorming podcasts, we kind of look up

542
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.719
who they are and you know,
if I'm not familiar, kind of get

543
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:59.559
a feel of where he sort of
where to kind of let's talk about maybe

544
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:04.559
not to so just the stand up
questions, but maybe go a little bit

545
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:09.199
more deeper into the conversation about specific
things they're passionate about. And so when

546
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.159
almost but when so and Breed reached
out to me, and it's like,

547
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:22.599
you knows ks information, could check
them out, see what the content is,

548
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.800
and and I looked up I saw
her Instagram. But then I remember

549
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:31.840
seeing her before Bree reached out to
me on a TikTok page. It's so

550
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.679
it was so weird because I was
just scrolling and you know, I saw

551
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:45.199
her talk about I believe it was
the terminology of a specific word, and

552
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.960
there's a lot of good information.
I was thinking, ohnest, that's really

553
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.840
really information. I didn't know the
history and our language has changed, and

554
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:58.239
so I was like, oh,
that's that's I think that's the same person.

555
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.679
And so when I we were doing
the episode, I mentioned that,

556
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.400
and she was like, yeah,
yeah, those other things that we got

557
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:09.840
into as far as terminology and stereotypes
and that that all entailed stereotypes with border

558
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:16.639
towns, discrimination, racial injustice,
violence, death, all these different things

559
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:23.239
that entail these really hot spot places
throughout history that have been really entangled to

560
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:30.320
colonialism and setlar violence that has happened, and you don't necessarily up here,

561
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.599
you know, when I think about
sort of the borders, I think there

562
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.400
is some of the places that we
go to now we don't have a bachelor.

563
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:42.639
The only thing we have like that
is like travel alone is probably like

564
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.079
some of the nearby like grocery some
of them who are like smoke shops and

565
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:51.800
things of that nature, smaller businesses, but nothing like a you know,

566
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.119
like a Walmart or a bashes or
things on the edges of these things.

567
00:46:54.199 --> 00:47:00.360
So to kind of hear her talk
about some of the the discrimination that happens

568
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.480
and things of that and throughout history
activism that has gone on in these border

569
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.840
towns to bring away and to hear
some of the academic work that is being

570
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.880
done to sort of look into the
research of why that is helping change it

571
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.599
and what's the future. So I
think this is a real from the interview,

572
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.079
I think it's a real, thriving
work that has been done and those

573
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:28.840
who influenced her and wanted her to
get into this type of research. Really

574
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.719
it was cool because I know some
of the folks that she was referencing,

575
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.880
so it was like full circle to
hear how she's interpreting the work and were

576
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.960
her passionalize and what she's bringing to
the table. So really really good stuff.

577
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:47.320
I really emphasize people who are not
aware of border towns on and off

578
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.400
the abrahonation to really look into that
because it's a lot it's nothing new that's

579
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.599
just been you know, like how
we're digesting content. I think that it's

580
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.880
real. And even I've been on
Boarder Challenge and things like Gallop and stuff,

581
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.960
and you do feel you do feel
welcome sometimes, so it's it's it's

582
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.159
real. It's it's kind of scary. But yeah, the episode was great.

583
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.840
Uh and then all the other questions
Tina about how do we are steps

584
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:21.360
I mean me and breeding kind of
brainstorm and Tina brainstorm. Yeah, I

585
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.760
guess just kind of like sharing with
the listening audience about what does that look

586
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.000
like? So yeah, again,
you know, bre kind of made that

587
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:34.360
initial contact. She already had was
familiar with Keana and had a relationship with

588
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.360
Keana and was able to you know, found her work interesting and thought like

589
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.199
this would be a good topic for
the podcast and to bring her on as

590
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.360
a guest. So you know,
Breing a Napoleon. Well, initially that's

591
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.760
who it was supposed to be,
bringing Napoleon to co host that episode.

592
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.559
But again, life happens and Bri
ended up having to work so, like

593
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:59.639
maybe too a day or two before
she was like, I can't make it,

594
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.199
so and I had to jump in, which is cool. You know,

595
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:06.639
that's fine. That's why we're a
team, you know, have each

596
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.719
other's back like that. But it
was cool. It was awesome to meet

597
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:14.639
her and to also do some quick
research on her. Again, just like

598
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.559
Napoleon said, it's always helpful to
dig a little deeper with your guests to

599
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.599
find out, you know, those
fun facts or stories about their work or

600
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.320
what they do in the community,
so you can have a better idea of

601
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.679
what information or questions that you want
to ask that maybe interesting for the listener.

602
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.000
So again that's just a part of
the process when it comes to getting

603
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.119
a guest on and preparing for that
guest to come on, and then of

604
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.559
course scheduling a date and a time
on when to do it. And yeah,

605
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.159
so and for me, it took
me a little while to get that

606
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.840
episode out. We've been sitting at
it. Well, I've been sitting on

607
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.480
it for a while. I've been
so busy and I hadn't had time to

608
00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:00.840
like really edit. And that's my
job as executive producer. I edit and

609
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.800
mix all the episodes, so we
all have a little role in a little

610
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:12.840
part, and sometimes editing it's a
tedious job, you know. But I'm

611
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.639
glad that we got that done and
it's out there right now, episode forty

612
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:22.639
two. So again that's episode forty
two and what we're doing right now,

613
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.800
this is kind of like an update, a last episode for season eight.

614
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:34.039
And then it's funny when we were
with this topic we're talking about recently Native

615
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.920
America calling. If you're a listener, I was listening in on my way

616
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:44.960
to work and they were talking about
that whole situation that happened with those high

617
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.480
school students in Farmington. That topic
came up and the governor for Farmington came

618
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.719
on and he was talking and saying
all these great things about the relationships and

619
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:59.119
the positive things about it. But
then after that they had a person come

620
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.599
on live him and what they were
like, you know, we live in

621
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:07.000
Farmington, nothing's changed. We still
deal with these racial discrimination and all these

622
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:12.280
other negative things about it. So
I know, as the governor, he's

623
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:15.920
trying to paint a nice, perfect
picture. As a politician, that's what

624
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:21.320
you do. But as a community
member, this is what we're really dealing

625
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.880
with and what things are really what
we're really faced with. So that was

626
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.960
just an interesting conversation. So I
mean, if you want to go back

627
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:34.280
and listen to that again, it
was on a Native America calling that I

628
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:39.440
heard it on, because this past
weekend is actually the anniversary of that whole

629
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:45.320
situation that did happen with those high
school students back in the seventies, I

630
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.599
believe. Did you want to add
something, bre Well, I think it'd

631
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.840
be really good resource to educate yourself
because there's a lot of history there.

632
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:58.599
But I just I don't live there
anymore, but my experience there just growing

633
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.599
up and then also just hearing things
from you know, family members and cousins,

634
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.719
and every time I do go back
there, I can just see it

635
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.320
and feel it, and it is
really unfortunate because the population is so heavily

636
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:14.559
not Hope people, Native people,
and it's just really sad just knowing the

637
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.760
history, you know, how we
even got there and the fact that we're

638
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:23.039
dealing with all of this negativity,
brutality even and racism and all of that.

639
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:28.480
It's just really hard to see and
just know that my family's living there,

640
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.880
my community is there as well.
But yeah, no, I just

641
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.400
suggest that you you know, do
some research, educate yourself, watch your

642
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:38.559
episode, and just learn more about
it. Yeah. Absolutely, So that's

643
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:43.639
what we recently put out. And
yeah, so I think I don't there

644
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.039
anything else that we were missing to
talk about what's next to the podcast,

645
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:52.639
And I think the biggest thing we
were saying is just taking what we've learned

646
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:58.039
so far about you know, data, sovereignty, tribal governance, and just

647
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.840
trying to do our best as a
podcast to promote our stories in a way

648
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:07.079
that's you know, protecting us,
but also speaking about stories and things that

649
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.199
are you know, gonna do good
for the community and bring awareness to issues

650
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:15.079
that need awareness brought to. So
yeah, hopefully we can continue to do

651
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:20.000
that continue to learn, go to
more community events and other events like the

652
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.639
conferences we went to. I think
would really be nice because I know since

653
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.440
then we've had a lot of good
conversations, you know, surrounding these issues

654
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:29.599
and just how to better ourselves as
a podcast as well. Yeah, and

655
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:35.880
so like season nine for us,
we're gonna kick started. It's gonna be

656
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.079
heavy. It's gonna start off heavy, to be honest, and that's okay

657
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:45.880
because it's important the story. We're
going to be putting out an episode to

658
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:53.840
chat with Raymond Mattia's nieces Alicia,
I believe, and you have Vaughan.

659
00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.000
I believe they're sisters. But they're
the nieces of the late Raymond Mattia Bot

660
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:07.880
who was unfortunately killed by US Border
patrol in his own front yard in the

661
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:14.760
on the Thana Autumn Nation in in
the Gova District. And you know when

662
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.760
that happened, that got local news
from here, Toucson and from Phoenix that

663
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:24.000
were out there. They were covering
the story. And it's a tough one

664
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:29.239
because this is this is what it
is, this is our reality when we

665
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:35.440
as a community that lives alongside the
US Mexico border. These are this is

666
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:40.159
our reality unfortunately, and a lot
of there are a lot of untold stories,

667
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.400
especially when it comes to tribal members
our autumn being killed at the hands

668
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:52.159
of a Border patrol, whether it's
with gunfire, whether it's on on a

669
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:58.800
head on collision, impact on our
roads, which has happened unfortunately, you

670
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.880
know. So, oh, that's
what Season nine is going to kickstart,

671
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:06.679
is It's going to be heavy,
but it's an important story that needs to

672
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.559
be shared by the family members themselves
and the impacts that it has and the

673
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:16.719
effects and the trauma that these types
of situations have on our community members and

674
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:23.840
for us, we wanted to hear
from the directly from the family. They've

675
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:31.239
also been putting on a peaceful protests
because not only are they wanting justice for

676
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:37.400
their uncle Raymond, but they also
want accountability from not only the US Border

677
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:43.039
Patrol, but the thorn out them
Nation Police Department. They just feel like

678
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.599
it was just a case that kind
of they just it was just done and

679
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:50.480
no time closed the case. That
was it. That was a wrap and

680
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:54.840
they feel like they didn't get any
justice at all. And one thing that

681
00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:04.000
came out by the CBP was they
put out the video of the shooting that

682
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.559
happened, the camera videos of you
know when they wear their cameras. They

683
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:14.440
put out that video footage. And
I remember last year around like June when

684
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.119
it was released. I knew it
was released, and I knew that,

685
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:21.360
Okay, I'm gonna watch it,
but I'm gonna I gave myself time because

686
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.480
I wanted to prepare myself mentally,
emotionally, because I knew it was gonna

687
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:29.039
be heavy, a heavy video to
watch. And I finally watched it,

688
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.480
like in July of last year,
and I seen the video footage. I

689
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:37.639
seen what that looked like as far
as like when they talked to TOPD,

690
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.639
when they were talking to the dispatcher, the things that were said, how

691
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.880
they approached his house when he came
out of the house, and what they

692
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:52.039
were yelling at him, and it
was just so aggressive and forceful. But

693
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:53.639
that's what they do, and that's
how they are. They are aggressive,

694
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:59.800
they are forceful to you. And
really, if you've watched the video or

695
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:05.159
you haven't, you know, all
Raymond is doing is doing exactly what they're

696
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.760
asking him to do, emptying out
his pockets, putting his hands up,

697
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:14.079
and you know he had when he
was emptying out his pockets. Yes there

698
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.440
was a machete that was thrown,
but again he was just doing what he

699
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:21.360
was being asked to do. And
when he was told to empty out his

700
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:24.119
pockets, he was trying to pull
out his cell phone. And when he

701
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.400
did that, that's when the shots
were fired. And you see all of

702
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.480
I seen all that in the video
when shots were fired, and then even

703
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:35.800
when he did go down, it
was like, put your hands on your

704
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.800
head, do this, do that, and it's like you literally just shot

705
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:43.880
him this many times and you're still
expecting him to follow directions, like I

706
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.239
don't understand. And it was like
you could tell when they when they didn't

707
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.000
find a gun, because immediately they
were like, where's the gun, where's

708
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.280
the gun? And they were searching
him and he was on the floor bleeding.

709
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.920
You could tell they got nervous.
The tone and their voices changed.

710
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.400
They were nervous. They probably realized, oh shit, this is there's no

711
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.000
gun at all. We need to
find the gun. It was like they

712
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.280
really wanted there to be a gun, but there wasn't because they knew that

713
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:22.480
they were in the wrong. But
that's that's what we have to kickstart season

714
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:30.000
nine, we're gonna go more into
that realm of like border stories, border

715
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:32.679
lands, especially with his anniversary.
It's actually coming up. They're gonna have

716
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:38.280
a visual for him. Raymond Matia
in Aho, Arizona and his family just

717
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:45.199
actually texted me the flyer just the
other day and it is a candle light

718
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:51.280
visual for Raymond Matia Senior. But
and it says here that we hope you

719
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:55.719
can join us as we celebrate Raymond's
life together May eleventh, twenty twenty four,

720
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:02.960
six pm to eight pm at eight
North Plaza Street in Ajo, Arizona.

721
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.880
So, uh yeah, that's gonna
be coming up and for sure where

722
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:13.760
hopefully we can make it out there
and support of the family as well,

723
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.760
So any way that we can continue
to support them and to continue to tell

724
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:23.719
the story using our platform, We're
absolutely going to do that. So that's

725
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:29.039
gonna be the next episode coming out. I think we also wanted to I

726
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:37.840
also wanted to share hopefully we can
get apro Ignacio on an episode for season

727
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.920
nine, just to again supporting her
and her campaign. We're running for supervisor

728
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.599
for District three and Bama County.
I think that'd be a really cool topic

729
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.239
to cover as well, and I'm
not sure did you all have any other

730
00:59:53.599 --> 01:00:00.199
ideas for topics coming up for the
summertime? A few And I want to

731
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:06.960
just uh, those of you who
don't know what happened down there and just

732
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.360
you know, educate yourself on and
dig deeper than what's on the surface.

733
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.599
I mean, there's a lot of
injustice even just not only for those families

734
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.159
right now, but others who have
yet the story to be shared. Episode

735
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:27.519
is to use our platform to be
for community and others who don't know and

736
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:34.519
others who are who are impacted every
day and that they seek justice as well.

737
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.639
So and then that and that sort
of framework, there's a there's a

738
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:44.039
few people that that I want that
I wanted to reach out to because I

739
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.679
think just in the whole escape scope
of things, that we have a good

740
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:52.639
thing of talking about these things that
we're We've been inspired by so much of

741
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:58.039
the stuff that is being documented in
things that are that are happening in other

742
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:02.960
communities and having that sort of support, especially from others who are willing to

743
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.000
support us in these topics of violence
in any shape or form. And I

744
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:12.400
think that's what we also learned at
the Self Governance conference when Tina was able

745
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:17.480
to really talk about this episode and
sitting on it for a while, I'm

746
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.039
not sure whether it was appropriate or
not what to share. And we got

747
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.280
some support and we're just like we
feel a little a little bit, I

748
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:30.480
feel a little bit, you know, kind of supposed that coms of being

749
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:34.960
a healing thing. So with that, I have a few people in mind

750
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.079
as far as based around indigenous rights
and social justice, some of the stuff

751
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:43.519
that I've sort of looked up to
people that I've known over the years,

752
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:47.000
so maybe sort of in that realm
I know I've done. We've tagged team

753
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:52.000
on different topics like boards and stuff, so there's a few people that that

754
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:57.119
would definitely be cool to have on
as well. Keep an eye on that.

755
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.639
But yeah, those are a few
things, just kind of coming back

756
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.000
off the high of the self governance
thing and all the support we got.

757
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:08.199
And I think about when when people
kept asking, you know, why is

758
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:12.199
this important? Why is this important? Why do we need to learn about

759
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.400
it? And you know, I
always think of my friend Rodney who's from

760
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:19.559
out the nation. Shout out to
Rodney and see Saint Marie out there and

761
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.400
not of the nation. But he
said something to me that kind of stood

762
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.239
on one of my classes. He's
like, well, if you're not on

763
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:29.280
the table, that you're on the
menu. So we're not sitting at the

764
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.519
table and people are looking at the
menu, And that always stuck with me,

765
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.679
like doesn't matter, Like that's because
it does matter in any way,

766
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:39.239
shape of and so that's why it's
anty you're in some way or form,

767
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.519
it's going to matter to you.
Whether you're not the main platter, you're

768
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.159
still going to be on that that
maybe it's coming for you. So but

769
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:49.400
yeah, those is some of the
things that I would think about for the

770
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.679
podcast, and obviously the community if
you all listeners have any ideas or think

771
01:02:53.760 --> 01:03:00.360
anybody will be cool, not inappropriate
TikTokers or anything, but people who people

772
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:06.079
are chill and really to go to
hear from. So yeah, agree,

773
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.280
if had any idea. Yeah,
honestly, was really inspired by the work

774
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:16.159
that Faith was doing just for missing
and murdered indigenous peoples and women, especially

775
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:21.480
Tucson being uh the fourth highest rate
in the country, I believe, and

776
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.519
I think Arizona is the third.
So I think i'd be really interesting and

777
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:29.280
insightful to look into the issue and
how it's impacting communities here in Tucson,

778
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.440
especially because I know that me and
Tina have been listening to Connie Walker recently,

779
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.559
and I've been listening to the most
recent episode or yeah, the most

780
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:44.000
recent I guess her season talking about
Alaba Gay and that takes place in the

781
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.519
Navah Nation, and I know a
little bit about you know, that community

782
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:53.519
and people that it's impacted, and
so I know how hard it is to

783
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.079
go through those things, and I
also have some other just there's a lot

784
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:00.639
of things going on in that realm, and so I really would like to

785
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:04.639
bring light to that topic. Yeah, So I think it would be really

786
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:11.320
cool to interview either Faith Phillips or
Connie Walker. I think they're both really

787
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:15.639
prominent voices in that space, and
I just would love to know how they

788
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:20.039
go about doing that type of work
and how they do work with families,

789
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:23.360
but also in a respectful way as
well, because you know, we did

790
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.440
talk a lot about digit data sovereignty, and I think that's something we want

791
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:30.119
to focus on going forward, especially
we are talking about sensitive subjects like this,

792
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:35.119
So be excited about that. Yeah, Season nine again might be it's

793
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:40.000
gonna get a heavy, but I
feel like, these are absolutely important topics

794
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:45.559
and these are just stories that we've
recently heard from other Native and Indigenous folks

795
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:50.119
who are working in media and providing
this type of content. And yes,

796
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:56.480
shout out to Connie Walker. She
is an amazing journalist investigator. Like if

797
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:00.840
you haven't listened to her podcast called
Stolen, she did one on which was

798
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:08.880
crazy to even learn that Bree has
some connection or ties to the first one

799
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:13.960
she did. What was that first
one again, Brie Germane, Yeah,

800
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:19.159
Germaine. Yeah, you know,
from Montana. But Brie is connected,

801
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:24.079
like you said, you were like
long distance relation or something. Yeah,

802
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:27.159
she's all related to them, my
mom's side of my family. My h

803
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:30.880
up there. So yeah, I
did started to listen to that I'm Finishtlonia,

804
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:32.360
and then I started to listen to
the lame one, but even just

805
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.679
to hear the family members and kind
of hear you know, like the last

806
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:40.880
names of my family and just like
really brought it, you know, close

807
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.599
to home. And again like I
just remember being up in Montana and seeing

808
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.119
her face up on the billboards and
talk to my mom about it, and

809
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:51.760
it's just it's really hard, but
I do really appreciate the work that you

810
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:56.639
know, her and people like faith
are doing to bring light to these to

811
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:01.559
bring justice and to really speak up
for these people because it is hard work.

812
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.079
But you know, they have shown
me that it is possible, uh

813
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:10.679
to get people outside of the Native
communities to care and to want to do

814
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:15.679
something about, you know, all
these missing and murdered Indigenous peoples. So

815
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:20.800
yeah, hopefully we can talk about
that. Oh and that makes you think

816
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:32.199
about episode on family. I guess
Native families, digenous dad's things of that

817
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:35.639
sort of thing. I think that
what do you when you said uncle,

818
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:44.719
your uncle fit? I think another
thing too, like what ties into that

819
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.440
you know important community and family is
sorry? I think probably something around that

820
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:53.840
too, sort of like in a
lightening sort of thing, you know,

821
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:58.280
getting some good some I'm just gonna
say, good advice, some of you

822
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:04.440
know some things that being an Indigenous
father, mother, single parent. One

823
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:12.440
of our Crystal Miller, who is
on a on a discussion back I can't

824
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.360
remember which episode. She's a mother
of three and so she does it all.

825
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:20.880
She's a wonder woman. So also
she's getting her doctorate and still working

826
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.639
on her doctorate out there, so
she outed Crystal, I remembered that,

827
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:29.440
Oh yeah, that'll be a great
episode because I mean, we have long

828
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:34.519
conversation of of what support is out
there for Native families and what support is

829
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:40.079
out there for resources for a lot
of Native families. So I think that

830
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:44.119
would be another thing because I'm a
I'm a single father, not by choice,

831
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:48.239
I had my partner Will weren't together
at the time, but my son's

832
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:54.440
mother passed in an unfortunate way.
And so I think for those who have

833
01:07:54.599 --> 01:08:00.480
lost loved ones in the family since
kind of getting talking about that and how

834
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.800
do we, you know, build
together as a community, what does that

835
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:08.039
mean being family oriented? So I
think those are some other things too,

836
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:14.239
maybe stories that have been told or
relationship wise. I think those are some

837
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.520
really good stuff. That also another
thing that kind of slipped my mind.

838
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:23.760
And also another thing too before I
lose it, our T shirts and merchandise

839
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:27.239
that we saw, you know,
thank you all for you all for stuck

840
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.159
by the table. If you're able
to get a sticker and our information and

841
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:34.039
the T shirts that we got,
I don't know, if you want to

842
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:39.119
shout out the homies that we're able
to hook us up and you know,

843
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.680
shout out to them because they were
able to get me a four x and

844
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:47.439
for you big, for you,
big aut them or big yeah big natives

845
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:54.600
out there. You know you've got
to get that comfortable five It regular fits

846
01:08:54.680 --> 01:09:01.960
sometimes not yet hit the gym yet, but is working on it into a

847
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:15.880
muscle T shirt. They shut it
all right here waiting down here. I

848
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:23.560
know you see your extra credentials down
there. They're gonna be flashbox my dad

849
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:33.039
in the summer, like, yeah, exactly, exactly the shirt the sweat

850
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:47.479
stains, but yes, so yeah, shout out, shout out. Dude

851
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:53.520
Chad and his brother, the famous
Ones Brothers. We've actually had them on

852
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:59.119
the podcast. We've done several episodes
with them supporting their work and their music.

853
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.680
But in the last episode, if
you listen to it, I believe

854
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:09.600
it was called more than Music,
and it was a conversation not only about

855
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:14.560
their music, but also about the
things that they're doing outside of music.

856
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.520
They have a lot of different projects
going on, but one of them was

857
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:21.600
they had an apparel line and it's
called three hundred and seventh Apparel, and

858
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:26.439
you know, they're really doing it
right now and it's really cool. But

859
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:33.600
anyways, going back to that that
four x size. So the cool thing

860
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:38.640
about it was that you know,
normally when a company is you know,

861
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:44.960
selling shirts or made T shirts for
your company or whatever with your logos and

862
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.880
stuff, they usually charge by the
size, and the bigger the size,

863
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:53.760
the more. But in this case
they're not doing that. They it don't

864
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:58.359
matter. The size is all the
same price. And you know, because

865
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.399
we had been supporting them, and
this is again Autum supporting aut them,

866
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.520
I told them, I said,
you know what, I really need a

867
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:09.560
favor. We have this conference coming
up. I know it's a short window,

868
01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:14.800
but we really would love to support
our podcast and we need T shirts.

869
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:18.039
I need T shirts for the team. Can you make six T shirts

870
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:23.560
for us by next week? And
can we you know? And they were

871
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:25.880
like, yeah, we got you, We got you, We can make

872
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:29.600
the T shirts. We can actually
meet you halfway because they live all the

873
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.239
way out there in San Lucy in
the Hill of Ben area. But they

874
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.880
came all the way out and they
met me in Cassa Grand We met halfway.

875
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:40.279
Not only did they hook us up
with some T shirts, but they

876
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:45.640
actually made us some stickers and they
actually hooked me up with one of their

877
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:49.000
latest wiredest CDs. Shout out to
you. Thank you so much, guys.

878
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:53.920
I appreciate you. Yeah. So
they they actually made this. It's

879
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:59.279
like a promo little thing, kind
of like here's a little taste in case

880
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:02.039
you guys are all so interested in
these like little tote bags. We make

881
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.239
these as well. So this is
just kind of like a I don't know,

882
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:08.800
promo thing, I guess, but
they made this. They didn't you

883
01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.840
know, they didn't have to,
but they thought they thought about more,

884
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:15.000
you know, as a business opportunity, but also supporting us and the work

885
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:19.880
that we do. So shout out
to them for hooking it up and getting

886
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:25.720
us to the conference and style and
this was just kind of like, Okay,

887
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:29.920
we'll see how the material feels.
How is it gonna work if what

888
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:33.239
if we make a bigger order and
for T shirts that we can then sell

889
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:39.920
to the listeners for longtime fans who
maybe want to support us and our merch

890
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:45.279
and the podcast. So that's something
we're hoping to maybe do by the end

891
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:48.600
of next month or even early June, is get a bigger order in so

892
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:55.760
that we can sell that merch.
Yeah, real quick, I wanna I

893
01:12:55.840 --> 01:13:00.680
want to showcase something for you all
that maybe break missed out on. But

894
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:03.279
I feel like I talk about it
a lot and nobody really knows theirs.

895
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:10.119
So I just bought this accordion.
It's like a Panther accordion. I just

896
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:19.439
play a little something before we close
out. Okay, I found it.

897
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:18.479
I love I love hearing you play. I stuck her. She plays on

898
01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:23.920
her TikTok, so I stuck it
sometimes and I watch her play. Yeah,

899
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:27.520
I'm gonna say, is that well
people know that if they hear it,

900
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.479
Well, no, that song,
if they hear it, I don't

901
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:34.359
know. I think maybe maybe we
could do maybe if someone comments and be

902
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:39.039
like, hey, no they're jam
they can name it, we could we

903
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:45.039
could give them something or something.
Yeah. Yeah, if you get that

904
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.079
right, drop it in the comments, hit us up on O senters a

905
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:54.199
message and say hey, here's the
title to that song and we'll send you

906
01:14:54.319 --> 01:15:05.239
some merch and following on TikTok,
I'm a Valentina underscore pyt if you know

907
01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:15.039
what pyit stands for. Yeah,
so yeah, So thank you all so

908
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:20.000
much for listening in for watching this
video on our YouTube channel. But of

909
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:24.479
course, if you're just listening to
us on wherever you listen to your podcast.

910
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:28.560
We appreciate you so much, We
love you all so much, and

911
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:33.039
we hope that you look forward to
the upcoming episodes all the things that we've

912
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:36.319
been talking about, all the things
that we've been involved in, both on

913
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:42.359
and off the microphone. And again, if you have any suggestions on topics

914
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.039
that maybe you're interested in or would
like us to cover, or maybe you

915
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.880
feel like, hey, this is
a PABI a good person to reach out

916
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:53.680
to, hit us up. Don't
be afraid. You can reach us again

917
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.520
through our social media, but maybe
you're not, so if you're not active

918
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.199
on social media, you can go
to our website t Young Voices dot com

919
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:06.399
and leave us a message there.
Any message that you leave goes directly to

920
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:12.039
our email so we can see it, so we encourage you to do that.

921
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:17.800
Any last words comments from both Brie
or Napoleon, thank you for listening

922
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.039
so far, and I hope you
guys are as excited as we are for

923
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:25.039
this next season and kind of just
a new page, a new era,

924
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:29.119
I guess you could say, for
us as a team, And yeah,

925
01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:33.840
I'm just excited. Yeah, definitely
check out our website. You'll notice a

926
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:39.760
few changes. Keep up with our
community events. We want to use it

927
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.680
for your research. Look at what
the conferences that we've been to. Hopefully

928
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:47.000
we can get more of a grasp
of what we're going to be at so

929
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:53.319
that we can catch us there,
because it's very rare that all three of

930
01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:57.479
us are together, but when we
are together, it's it's awesome. But

931
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.560
yeah, thank you all so much
for listening and shout out to one again.

932
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.720
You all make our podcast awesome.
So thank you all. Oh,

933
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:08.800
I remember autumn New Year is coming
up for you autumn out there, so

934
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:14.079
better get your better, get your
chocolate order and make sure you're doing good

935
01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:17.920
things and tell you your enemies that
you're sorry your loved ones. Better make

936
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:23.479
up for the new year. So
keep that'll be if we're thinking about that

937
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:28.079
too. Maybe some cool content around
the autumn New Year coming up, So

938
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:32.039
for your autumn out there, get
ready what's it mean in June? Yeah,

939
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.960
so looking forward to the new year
coming out for us autumn and celebrating

940
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.159
it. Picking somebody that. But
again, thank you all so much for

941
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:45.920
listening in We appreciate you. And
yeah, that's a wrap for season eight

942
01:17:45.159 --> 01:18:10.199
and look out for season nine coming
up with Justice for Raymond Mattia s No do't o